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 | Zippy-Do-Da
Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 36 Winnipeg, MB 
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2004-04-07 82384
I am scrapping the plan to get a B7800, due to the fact that for an extra $2000 dollars I can step into a L series tractor with the same features. Unfortunately it has a standard transmission vs the hydrostatic. Does anyone have any comments on the L3400?
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| Woodbutcher
Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9 Schaefferstown, PA
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2004-04-07 82385
I ended up going the same direction you are now headed, but I got an L3130 with HST. I started looking at a B2410 and quickly worked my way up to the L3130 with FEL for $19,000. My only regret is the size of the new tractor. It's not so compact as the other models. I replaced a B8200 that fit nicely in the garage ahead of my truck. Now the garage is too small. The L3130 is even more amazing then any of the other Kubotas I've had in the past 28 years starting with a B6000. Good luck and get all the tractor you can. ....
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 | Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada 
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2004-04-07 82387
They are all good tractors, you will be happy with any of them.
My only observation would be, if it is at all possible, get the GST if you're not getting a HST model. You will be much happier with it, ESPECIALLY if you plan on getting a FEL, or for doing bush-hog work.
Best of luck. ....
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| muletrain
Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25 Deer Creek, north of Oklahoma City
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2004-04-07 82388
Murf,I am not understanding your comment. Do you prefer the HST, then if unavailable, etc go for the GST?
I am quite please with the HST on my 5030. ....
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| Zippy-Do-Da
Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 36 Winnipeg, MB
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2004-04-07 82391
I am new to the Tractor scene, Can someone Explain GST Vs Single Gear/Constant mesh transmissions. I can't get the HST or GST option on the L3400DT and that's as much as I can put out for dough! I am under the immpression that with the Constant mesh tranny, I will have to come to a complete stop before changeing gears. But I may be wrong? ....
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| Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2004-04-07 82397
Mule, it depends on the application, as a commercial user, I personally, prefer the GST, unfortunately not all my customers agree and I recently had to buy a fleet of HST machines (my pic. # 6). My own personal toy, errr, I mean tractor is also a HST (my pic. # 11) but that is more because to get an air conditioned cab with a stereo from the factory there was no choice. For the average 'homeowner' the HST is propably a better way to go because it is more user-friendly. The GST is definitely the more user-friendly of the 'standard' transmissions.
Zippy, a GST (Glide Shift Transmission) has two major differences over a 'regular' 4 speeds by 2 ranges gear tranny.
First, it gives you 8 forward and 8 reverse gears. This is a real nice thing since it means forward / reverse motion happens at the same speed as the other. In other words, with a GST 3rd gear is the (almost) same speed going forwards or back. With a 'regular' gear tranny there is no 5th reverse, just low and high reverse, low is normally same as 1st, high is same as 5th. If you are bush-hogging for instance, in 3rd gear and want to reverse, you either have to shift gears and range and back up much faster in high reverse (5th not 3rd), or back up at a crawl in low reverse (1st not 3rd).
The other difference is that the clutch is automatically operated by an internal hydraulic servo which is actuated as soon as you move the shifter between gears or the shuttle between forward and reverse. This means you have 'shift-on-the-fly' without clutching. There is still a clutch for manual over-ride or PTO control. This system also allows you to 'skip' gears, you can go from 1st to 8th directly, or vice-versa. This is VERY handy when mowing since it allows you to 'downshift' as you approach corners, hills, trees, etc. by merely moving a pistol-grip shifter next to your hip.
Do not think automatic is a bad thing, we have used these things commercially for years and have yet to have one fail.
Best of luck. ....
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| muletrain
Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25 Deer Creek, north of Oklahoma City
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2004-04-08 82460
I need some experienced suggestions. I bought a 5030 to move(feed) round bales. The loader specs were used by the Kubota dealer to approve my work on the 1200-1500 pound bales. However, the 5030 is too light. If I pick up a bale on the 3 pt rear spear then pick up a forward bale, there is enough counterbalance. Is this too much to ask for this 4000# tractor's steel over the long term? Should I take it back and order a 100hp M series? I don't think adding weights on the tire will be enough. Exasperated! ....
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| rkleypas
Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3 Houston, TX
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2004-04-08 82472
I bought my my L3400, FEL, 4wd with Ind. tires= $15,700 about 1 month ago and it is my first tractor. I am a big researcher when it comes to a major purchase, so I had done my homework. A couple of things I considered:
1) Price to performance ratio. Hst's are nice if your on the tractor alot, but $1000-2000 more just didn't make sense for me. The 3400 is a straight forward tractor like my dodge p/u with the Cummins-- it just works.
2) My use of the tractor; I have five acres of land that I intend to build a home on in the future so I need to keep it mowed and I've already done some clearing and dirt work (pushed down some yaupons and put in a culvert). I'll also disc the land and box blade soon. This is plenty of tractor for these chores.
3) Reputation: I can't find anything bad on Kubota and my personal experience is the same; in fact I hate getting off of the thing when the sun goes down. Shuttle shift is nice, 463 loader works great, power is good, it's smooth, uses very little diesel--I love my decision.
Hope this helps. ....
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